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Germany: 80% of Turkish Muslims claim welfare payments

by Daniel Greenfield

Turks came to Germany as ‘guest workers’. They were supposed to provide some “necessary cheap labor” and then leave. But it didn’t work out that way.

And the topic has obvious implications for our own Gang of 8′s guest worker plan, which is going to lead to non-workers bankrupting the social welfare system even further.

Three million Turks live already in Germany already, while 2.5 million of them have German nationality, and the majority of them are conservative Muslims.

Very few Turks in Germany have a regular job; about 20%. The other 80% live on the so-called Hartz IV (state social benefits). 70% of their children have no GCSE; they left school before they finished their basic education.

According to the German state benefit system, every adult citizen who possesses the German nationality, unemployed and cannot find an appropriate job, is entitled to get monthly 482 € ($627). Additionally, parents get for each child under 18 years old, 200 € ($261), plus all their monthly expenditures in terms of rent, heating, power, health insurance, and public transport.

“Amazingly enough some Turks who live on the generous state benefits can afford to buy a house or an apartment and drive luxurious cars like Mercedes or BMW.” Says Klaus, a landlord whose tenants are a case in point.

That part is easy enough. Just like in the United States, you cash in by having a lot of kids. Bring over a whole bunch of family members, churn out some kids from polygamous marriages (the next frontier in marriage equality) and soon you’re bringing in 10 grand a month)

Kamal (46 years old) and his wife Shadia (42 years old) have ten children under 18 and live on Hartz IV (the German social benefit system). They have a monthly net income of about 3000 €. In addition, all their spending on rent, health care, transport, heating, etc. are paid by the state.

Kamal never worked or had a regular job, never finished school, and never learned a profession. Now he claims that he is “ill.” Klaus, the landlord of Kamal says, “The man is fit.” He even confessed to Klaus that he lies when he says he is ill. “He told me once, ‘Why should I work if I can live well without/’” Klaus quotes Kamal.

Kamal is obliged to regularly report his joblessness to the Federal Employment Office (Bundes Agentur für Arbeit) in his town. He does so when he is invited for a job interview. But he always alleges that he is “sick:” He allegedly has “unbearable pains in his back and joints.” Therefore, he cannot take any job. The only one who knows the truth about Kamal is his landlord Klaus.

Klaus and many other Germans are outraged about Kamal and his like. “It is us, taxpayers who have to finance odd buggers like Kamal. This makes me sick.” Klaus frowns at me.

On the other hand, Kamal’s neighbour, Dieter works for a mail company. For working 8 hours daily, he merely get 800 € ($1000) at the end of the month. From this salary he has got to pay his rent and the rest of his expenditure. Left for him is something around 400 € ($500).

This is much worse than Cyprus. And this will eventually break Germany’s back. Imagine millions of people living this way and reproducing at a much higher rate than the native population and the spending becomes completely unsustainable.

German citizens can enter Turkey with simply showing their personal identity card. Hence German Turks, particularly women, travel to Turkey and come back with a “leased” baby. They get the baby temporarily from relatives and claim at the German border that it is their baby who was recently born in Turkey.

Khaled, a Turk, told me that you can get “a false birth certificate” in Turkey for $10.

Back in Germany, the “new” baby is registered at the town hall administration, and the “mother of the baby” starts getting 200 € ($261) monthly.

And don’t kid yourself. This happens here too south of the border.

Nicole, a German school teacher told me once, when she asks her students what they want to become in the future, the majority of Turkish students say, “Hartz IV Empfänger” (state benefit receiver). When she asked one of her students, “Why is that?” The girl answered, “My parents live on Hartz IV and lead an easy life. They sleep longer in the morning, and always have got enough money.”

“The dream of having an Ottoman Empire is not dead among the Turks.” Says Jalal, a Kurdish freelance journalist living in Germany. He added, “The Turkish establishment believes that the Turks in Germany constitute a valuable spearhead for the resurrection of the Ottoman Empire. What could not be accomplished by force in the 15th century might, many Turks believe, become a reality in the 21st century in Germany, the heart of Europe. Besides, don’t forget that demographically, while the German population growth is almost null, it is even contracting, the Turks in Germany have an annual birth rate of more than 5%. Therefore, demographers assume that by 2050 the majority of people living in Germany will be of Turkish descent.”

Welcome to the Welfare Caliphate built by the Welfare Jihad.

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.

26 thoughts on “Germany: 80% of Turkish Muslims claim welfare payments

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  2. You may have heard that God has a plan for us.This one has been awarded to Germano-Turks, Need a better plan for yourself, maybe you need a better God just hope there exists a large pool of suckers to support it. The God of Limitless Opulence can place great demands upon the luckless working stiffs who are the muscle and sinew of a worthhile plan.


    • Mr. Greenfield has got these statistics from a far-right conspiracy theory website… From an article written on March 22, 2013 by a so called Dr. Sami Alrabaa, who himself got these figures from a so-called Peter Cohen, an American visiting professor at Munich University who has concluded his recent study in Germany.

      Sami Alrabaa’s article is a hoax.

      BS detected.

      There is no Peter Cohen who a) published a study in that field or b) ever taught in Munich.

      This is unbelievable dishonest and dirty ….


      • I googled Mr. Greenfield, who is a respected author. Slander of your critics, in the hopes they will turn inward and the argument will be diluted, from practices, to the personal…isn’t that a strategy we’ve encountered somewhere?


      • Some info on the author: Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


  3. I think 80% is a little bot to much-IN germany you can also get Hartz4 if you work,that happens when you don´t earn enough money.But also i think many turks who have a little business employ their family members and ofcourse they don´t pay them so much,so they get the “rest” from the state.

    But a statistic say that 90% of Lebanese(first 120% came out!Hmm how can this happen?Perhaps they have 2 Passports and get 2 times money?Whon knows…)people get are unemployed.But if you are not blind you know that many of them are do their living with 2nd hand cars!Nobody can controll it,you buy a car and sell it…easy living(but only idiots buy cars from them,they are often accident cars that are cheaply repaired)also the biggest exporter of 2nd hand cars to africa is a lebanese guy.


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  10. Now then do you now understand that the problems that you have in Germany with the Muslims on the Benefits scheme and coming to live in Germany in there thousands is exactly the same as the Eastern Europeans coming over to the United Kingdom in there thousands with 80% on Benefits and 20% employed with the European Union giving one months wage of £1000 to the employers as an incentive to hire eastern Europeans, that £1000 is per person so therefore companies never have to pay out of there own back pocket, and yet the European Union says that they are going to force us to take in Nigerian refugees and apparently people are saying that the EU is trying to take over all of the member states and make one federal union and remove our country names and state names and county names and change to driving to the right hand side of the road and change to KMPH and change from the Pound to the Euro and you know what I and every one of each country can say to that “get a grip John Junker and leave our country’s alone and let our countries do our own thing or we will leave the European Union and you will work at your local replacement to Netto, and you are not the Boss, shall you be called Cornel Junker? because you are becoming a Dictator”. If you become friendly then people may agree with you and support you which in the same way if a company has good customer service then people will come back to that company but if that company has bad customer service then they become grumpy and mean and customers don’t like that so they don’t go back.


  11. We were forced to take these people by our wonderful transatlantic friends and some ruthless economic assholes here. And the rest was done over long time by “reeducation” = taught selfhate and lots of ruthless economic assholes.

    Greetings from another dying european country


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  14. i’m a native white finn of almost 40 yets. if i went to work as a truck driver i’d get 3.125 euros more per hour and 160 work hours ie 500 euros a month. than i do when i’m unemployed full time. i tried the work life but its so stupid that no thank you. i’m never getting a job on purpose. if i work i lose 200 housing assistance and 600 welfare money =800e a momth. i own a one bedroom apartment which isnt fully paid and a small car. i have all the time in the world for the government to pay my mortgage but now it seems they might put up a refugee center next door because the system works so well lol. i know ppl on welfare that have more wealth than ppl that work a lot and have a huge debt mortgage that theyre gonna pay in the year 2045.


    • Why don’t you claim that all 100 % turks or muslims taking social assistance. It would make more spice in your blog.
      Your self calculated data and fabricared bedroom polls doesn’t even make sense to you then how can you expect it make sense to the public.
      Yor are definitely a failure and was a student who didn’t even pass his basic education otherwise you could know how to deduce facts and could know something about alphabets of economics.
      Mr liar whoever bigot created this blog has put a very hillarious thing. That all bedroom datas are close to 80 percent where all muslims are accused for everything. Even the quality of your data is so bad that no single statistics software like SPSS can even able to calculate such unsteady data so how can the results will produce. Haha such a basic mistake you made.
      You are trying to say that other group of people are like angels and so clean. That’s why STD including Hiv, Aids and other filthy dieses are highest in atheist group. Shows your lowest moral grounds which made your mind so closed that you are ashamed to put real statistics which are all opposite to your BS you are peopogating against islam


      • Articles are quotes from media reports and government statistics. So try to argue that. No matter how much you want to continue the “Islam is peace” lie, truth prevails. And truth is something you Muslims put no weight to so your word has no value.


  15. Though some are quibbling about the statistics, it does not change the overall pattern one sees with many Muslims in Europe, that of migrating there, claiming refugee status and then sucking money out of that country with its lenient and benevolent social programs. It is not surprising that many Europeans dread the incoming tides of illegal immigrants. And who will end up footing the bill for these thousands of newcomers pouring into Europe, their host nations aka those who pay taxes in those nations. It is clear it’s unsustainable, I am still in disbelief that Ms. Merkel openly welcomes them in the hundreds of thousands while Greece, Italy, Hungary and other ports of entry are being overwhelmed.


  16. You can blame Muslims, and sure the lazy will take advantage of your welfare system.

    But please blame yourselves and your govts policies.

    In Australia we cheered when Muslim boats were turned back. And now we give them refugee status in Cambodia, Papua New Guinea and Nauru, and they are so ungrateful.

    Europe must copy the immigration policies of Australia.

    The first obligation of a govt is to protect your borders and ensure a welfare system Encourages people to work and punishes them when on the dole.

    You have failed and will be punished.


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